What Are the Production Problem You Encounter When Doing a Photo shoot or Interview Process?

Cathy: So what are some of the production problems you that might come in for doing a photo shoot or an interview process like you did Erika with the Open Photo Project? I am curious because you put a lot of effort and energy into this. This is Erika Keepen from, did I say it right?

Erika: Yeah.

Cathy: I keep messing up your last for the https://www.theopenphotoproject.com/ and I’m Cathy Vartuli from the https://theintimacydojo.com/ and you’d been doing this for two years now or year and a half?

Erika: Ah, yeah a little over two years now I think.

Cathy: And how many people have you interviewed?

Erika: Over fifty and just counting and other page consider add up quickly. Yeah, I would take consistently well I know. And the production challenges have been pretty somewhat a big part of this project is access and acts that I still have a lot of other things so for example, I really want to show a diversity of people in non-monogamous relationships and not everybody who is in non-monogamous is comfortable being out is comfortable you know you feel safe enough to be out in their job, in their child custody, in their you know family dynamics with their work family or what not and so, you know a lot of times I might find two people who were in a relationship with each other also have relationship that are very near to other people and I would really like to show how all of the people involved are relating. But it’s very challenging to find some that are all everyone in that sort of community or who are all due related in that way would be able to in. And so, a lot of times the challenge because I might find too very two people who are comfortable but then the rests are not so it’s a really big challenge in terms of visibility and getting people who also who are in the diverse of groups because they have the privilege to be out and feel safe enough with their jobs and their life situations might be a little bit more of a certain demographic or a certain league or a certain lifestyle. There’s other people who are also non-monogamous but have different challenges that they are dealing with so they don’t want to be a public face so they don’t want to be you know searchable by their boss or their child’s or their parents or things like that. So it’s.

Cathy: I can totally understand wanting that privacy and it’s just sad that the voices of the people that are less privileged are not necessarily being heard and I can see that. How do you balance that?

Erika: Yeah. Absolutely, and fortunately, there’s been a lot of people who are starting to feel comfortable enough to share and a lot of people who felt open enough to share with me and so you know I’m constantly working on including more types of people and also working on with people on their safety features. So look for example, there’s all different ways like I have to scaffold the amount of information I could check. I thought of people who don’t want to face in the photo but their partners they could be or people who are fine with their face but they don’t want their last name or people who are fine with their last name but they just don’t want to be tagged on social media. So it’s like, I’ll have to check points when they do it you know make sure that everyone is comfortable with their level of involvement. Just logistically, it’s really adding another layer but it’s really import ant to work with really fine people who are comfortable to share what they want you know and nothing more basically.

Cathy: Yeah. No, it sounds like in just documenting and tracking all that would be really challenging than promoting it over time so that would.

Erika: Yeah. I have a folder full of papers that mark everything for each person and it then it has photographs on the papers and photographing basket on two set of hard drives and also with the people’s photos so that like if I lose one, I still have two others that I can reference. So, it’s logistically you know a little system that were trying to figure out.

Cathy: Yeah

Erika: And then, sometimes like travel logistics you know I live in New York and so a lot of people who have been able to photograph over time based here in New York and I photographed people who are in other places as well but a lot of times I would really like to travel more in depth stories of the people and you know, location and accessibility is another challenge so I’m hoping one day to have a little bit of travelling adventure with this project where I can go and stay in a City or town for a little bit of time and get more more of in depth story with certain people who might live in an area that doesn’t look like New York could have their relationships more differently if you have different environment you know.

Cathy: Oh, that would be wonderful. Yeah I really appreciate all the work you’re doing, you’re caring come across in all the interviews if you haven’t gone into the chance you can go to https://www.theopenphotoproject.com/ and take a look. I love the story as you really draw very personal things out on people like they share things they might not share. Some of them I think their partners might have been surprised about what they share or they’re like you know like, wow that’s really personal and I love that. I love that. The safety built into it. So, thank you for doing that.

Erika: Thank you.

Cathy: So, yeah check it out leave comments we’d love to know what you think because things like this help open the doors for all of us if we don’t all want to live the cookie cutter wearing pearls and vacuuming and showing up at your part with you partner with a martini when he walks through the door and if whether we want to live a different open relationship or not we all get freedom when people are aware of the different choices so thank you.

Erika: My pleasure. Thanks Cathy.